“You just need thicker skin.”
Well, ok…let’s be honest, shall we…
That’s not resilience—that’s endurance.
One feels like gritting your teeth. And the other feels like actually doing something about the thing that’s not working. But then, where’s the line between good discomfort that helps us grow and shitty conditions that wear us down?
This conversation’s about that.
The Unobstructed Podcast: Episode 10
In this episode of The Unobstructed Podcast, Rachael and I talk about emotional endurance vs. resilience—and why most people confuse the two. Because they’re definitely not the same.
And conflating them is a big part of why burnout sneaks up on so many of us.
Here’s what we we get into:
Learned helplessness and why it isn’t laziness.
How to use evidence to challenge your own assumptions.
What happens when intuition shows up… and when we ignore it
The difference between emotional endurance and resilience.
Embracing conflict and leaning into fear of change.
Rachael shares some personal stories about outgrowing friendships, navigating shitty work dynamics, and re-learning to trust her gut.
I always love her vulnerability. This is another personal one—and I think a lot of us need more conversations like it.
I’d love to know what stuck with you.
You can also get it on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Amazon Music.
onward.
-dmac
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